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And it’s clear to me that if we continue allowing greenhouse gas concentration to grow in the atmosphere, and try to engineer our climate to counteract those effects, that as the greenhouse gases accumulate, and our counteracting system grows ever larger and larger, that the risk of some kind of catastrophic failure of this offsetting — or the imperfections in this offsetting — would grow in time and the net result would be pretty negative, I would imagine.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003ESo, I do see CO2 as the problem. I think to present it as if, “Well, it not’s really CO2, but the effects of CO2,” it’s like if you got shot by a bullet and you said, “Well, it wasn’t really the bullet that was the problem, it was just that I happened to have this hole through my body...”\u003C\/span\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cspan id=\"fullpost\"\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EA good answer, and a good example of translating science into everyday English.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003C\/span\u003E"},"link":[{"rel":"replies","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/simondonner.blogspot.com\/feeds\/2955055385237125350\/comments\/default","title":"Post Comments"},{"rel":"replies","type":"text/html","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/comment.g?blogID=25163458\u0026postID=2955055385237125350\u0026isPopup=true","title":"0 Comments"},{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/25163458\/posts\/default\/2955055385237125350"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/25163458\/posts\/default\/2955055385237125350"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"http:\/\/simondonner.blogspot.com\/2009\/10\/on-geoengineering.html","title":"On Geoengineering"}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"Unknown"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"},"gd$image":{"rel":"http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail","width":"16","height":"16","src":"https:\/\/img1.blogblog.com\/img\/b16-rounded.gif"}}],"thr$total":{"$t":"0"}},{"id":{"$t":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25163458.post-2486387955305170104"},"published":{"$t":"2009-08-19T21:36:00.004-04:00"},"updated":{"$t":"2009-08-19T22:35:44.691-04:00"},"category":[{"scheme":"http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#","term":"geoengineering"},{"scheme":"http://www.blogger.com/atom/ns#","term":"science communication"}],"title":{"type":"text","$t":"Fun with language and geoengineering"},"content":{"type":"html","$t":"In the business section this morning's Globe and Mail, columnist Neil Reynolds \u003Ca href=\"http:\/\/www.theglobeandmail.com\/report-on-business\/commentary\/a-radically-different-greenhouse-gas-strategy\/article1256703\/\"\u003Edescribes with some excitement\u003C\/a\u003E a new \"paper\" from the Copenhagen Consensus Center detailing how we can cheaply re-engineer the climate using sulphate aerosols.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003ETo learn about the flaws in the science and the economic results reported in Reynolds' column, I recommend reading Alan Robock's fine piece on \u003Ca href=\"http:\/\/www.realclimate.org\/index.php\/archives\/2009\/08\/a-biased-economic-analysis-of-geoengineering\/comment-page-3\/\"\u003EReal Climate.\u003C\/a\u003E I won't offer more on the science here, other than to say that even if injecting sulphate aerosols into the stratosphere can affordably and safely counter CO2-induced climate warming, it would do nothing to combat \u003Ca href=\"http:\/\/simondonner.blogspot.com\/2008\/01\/temperature-and-co2-new-figure-for-new.html\"\u003ECO2-induced changes in ocean chemistry\u003C\/a\u003E and its \u003Ca href=\"http:\/\/simondonner.blogspot.com\/2008\/01\/rising-co2-and-other-reef-organisms.html\"\u003Eeffect on marine life\u003C\/a\u003E.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EThe column is a window into the increasingly deceptive labeling and branding of reports on climate change. A lot of groups are co-opting academic (\"paper\"), IPCC \/ UN (\"consensus\") and Obama-era (\"non-partisan\") language in order to gain scientific legitimacy. The language leaks out into the press, and next thing you know, a un-reviewed piece of work prepared by non-scientists from a partisan think-tank is reported as a piece of new science. This particular example is rather tame, but still worth thinking about.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EThe \"paper\" of which Reynolds' writes is not a paper in the academic sense - research is done, submitted to a journal, reviewed by peers, edited in response to the reviewers' concerns, etc. - but a solicited report not subject to peer review. The report could have some value, but it is not the same as an academic paper.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EThe cleverly-named \"Copenhagen Consensus Center\" has nothing to do with the UN meetings in Copenhagen this fall, nor does work from the Center represent a consensus of the larger scientific or economic community. The reports from this Center, like the geoengineering report in question, are writings by people invited to the Center for meetings, not exhaustive reviews of the existing literature. Again, the reports may have some value - but they do not represent a \"consensus\" in the IPCC sense.\u003Cbr \/\u003E\u003Cbr \/\u003EFinally, the \"non-partisan\" American Enterprise Institute, professional home of one of the report's authors, is committed to \"expanding liberty, increasing individual opportunity, and strengthening free enterprise\", a mission that naturally leads to rather partisan support to right-leaning politicians, and is in fact populated almost entirely by Republicans. Once more, a report from the AEI may may some value, but labeling AEI work \"non-partisan\" is playing with words."},"link":[{"rel":"replies","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/simondonner.blogspot.com\/feeds\/2486387955305170104\/comments\/default","title":"Post Comments"},{"rel":"replies","type":"text/html","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/comment.g?blogID=25163458\u0026postID=2486387955305170104\u0026isPopup=true","title":"0 Comments"},{"rel":"edit","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/25163458\/posts\/default\/2486387955305170104"},{"rel":"self","type":"application/atom+xml","href":"http:\/\/www.blogger.com\/feeds\/25163458\/posts\/default\/2486387955305170104"},{"rel":"alternate","type":"text/html","href":"http:\/\/simondonner.blogspot.com\/2009\/08\/fun-with-language-and-geoengineering.html","title":"Fun with language and geoengineering"}],"author":[{"name":{"$t":"Unknown"},"email":{"$t":"noreply@blogger.com"},"gd$image":{"rel":"http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#thumbnail","width":"16","height":"16","src":"https:\/\/img1.blogblog.com\/img\/b16-rounded.gif"}}],"thr$total":{"$t":"0"}}]}});